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#1 Phantom 309

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 07:41 PM

Hey "Captain Things Are Slow Around Here!" We know you've got something going on....let's see it!

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 05:49 AM

Haha, well let's see some pics!

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 09:49 AM

I was planning on doing this when I started making progress. This is going to be a slow process.  I don't have a lot to show you guys. I am just trying to focus on making it a roller. I am in the parts gathering phase now which requires money and that slows the process even more.  The plan is goat built 2 seat chassis with 6.2l 6l80 np205 dana 60 front and 14 bolt rear.  I have all of that and nothing else. I am saving for the 6k worth of stuff from goat built I want.  I think I got a great deal on the chassis though.  Drew found this on Craigslist and forwarded it to Bigby who forwarded it to me.  
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The guy was asking 3500.   I had him send me some pictures of the welds and I was very impressed.  He told me he was 80 hours into tig welding the chassis.  Almost 1 month later I was in mosses lake picking it up.
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I ended up getting it for 2500 and also bought a complete 5.3l with harness and a 4l60e for 500.  My Grandma has been nice enough to let me store the chassis at her place while I figure out where I am going to build this mess.  


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Posted 19 July 2015 - 10:45 AM

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I bought the 14 bolt and the 60 for 100 each.  I want to run this on the 14 bolt.
https://www.sneveyso..._off_road_parts
This would make my axle 65.25 inches wide.  I hope to be able to run rimrock with it.  I know wildman just put me on his shit list ( I was probably already there) but if it doesn't fit I might have to keep my TJ.  Nothing wrong with that.  The super duty 60 is buff but it is the later version and the unit bearings are huge so no 6 lug versions of the unit bearings.  I am thinking I want a 99-2004 super duty axle.  I am still sorting this out.  The axle I have is better but messes my plans up.  I would like to be able to run 15" wheels.  Transfer case will be getting a 32 spline input and cleaned up a bit.  It was free sorta.  Just cost me a day of helping put a superduty v10 in. It was only like 105 that weekend.  I think he got the better end of the deal!  The 6l80 is brand new. Build it off road helped source that.  The 6.2 l92 came out of a 08 Yukon Denali with 170k so it may need a bit of love.  My truck has 175k now though and I don't cut her much slack so we will see.

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 12:03 PM

What's the width of the 05+ super duty axle?

Why not run the super duty 10.5" rear too? They are burly.   Wheels with a lot of offset will fix the width issue.

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 02:04 PM

View PostFloorit, on 19 July 2015 - 12:03 PM, said:

What's the width of the 05+ super duty axle?

Why not run the super duty 10.5" rear too? They are burly.   Wheels with a lot of offset will fix the width issue.

Can't run 15" wheels with lots of offset I would think

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 02:14 PM

Switch to 1/2 ton brakes and it's possible.

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 02:43 PM

I meant 17" wheels with like  6.5" back spacing. That won't happen with 15s no matter what brakes.

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 08:03 PM

Yeah that's another reason why I am reconsidering the front axle.  It's around 70" wide. Maybe more.  I would really like to run 15s

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 08:09 PM

Does anyone know if the early super duty 60s are the same size tube as the later ones?

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 09:40 PM

Early super dutys are smaller diameter tube.  Jewgoat is donating the front axle out of his tow rig and one of his bays in his newly acquired shop for the build!  What a nice guy.  Here is my inspiration
http://www.pirate4x4...ild-thread.html

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 09:58 PM

View PostTryan100, on 23 July 2015 - 09:40 PM, said:

Early super dutys are smaller diameter tube.  Jewgoat is donating the front axle out of his tow rig and one of his bays in his newly acquired shop for the build!  What a nice guy.  Here is my inspiration
http://www.pirate4x4...ild-thread.html

You should just sell off all your stuff and buy his ;)

http://www.pirate4x4...n-tulsa-ok.html

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 05:03 AM

53k!

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 03:29 PM

If I could spend my money again it wouldn't go to 1/2 ton brakes. They work but are undersized for what we are asking of them. If a 15" wheel is a must then it doesn't matter.

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 05:18 PM

Why the 15" wheels? You can find C load range tires for 17" wheels for the snow.... 40" procomp xmt2 or mtrk, 42" irok or PB rocker or mtrk, 42.5" bogger, 44" bogger or PB rocker, 47" PB growler, 49" irok

Edited by ChevyJoe, 24 July 2015 - 05:30 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2015 - 07:49 PM

Probably because he already has them and could inter change with his TJ


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Posted 24 July 2015 - 07:55 PM

In my opinion big brakes is not going to help.  It's about the amount of assist you have.  We are not trying to stop massive amounts of weight over and over like a 1 ton truck.  We are not trying to stop as quickly as possible from 100 plus (well maybe).  There is not a need for 1 ton brakes.  I bet you would be amazed what vacuum assist would do for you Shrek.  I am planning on running hydro boost.  I am willing to bet half ton stuff will do just fine.  I want to be able to run the stacks of Mtrs I have lol.  I won't have to buy wheels or tires.

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 08:02 PM

I know heavy heavy blah blah blah.  I am less worried about weight then I used to be.  I think it will suffer in the snow but overall will be ok.

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 08:05 PM

sweet another buggy build, do yourself a favor though and save up for an atlas 2 over the 205 or find one used and go through it to save some money.

if you want brakes that work very well ( but aint cheap ) with manual masters but force you to run a 17" wheel run the spidertrax/wilwood brakes, just dont run the K compund pads, run the Q pads. softer and bite better and dont sequel. http://www.pirate4x4...-brake-kit.html

Jesse haines also sells a ball joint axle kit of the same stuff.

the rotors and brakes will slip onto the back of the 14 bolt hubs and weld on brackets like I did: http://www.off-cambe...__25#entry48575

I ran all 3/4 ton chevy stuff and hated my brakes, im really impressed with my current setup and would do it again.

save weight where ever you can.

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 08:41 PM

What's wrong with a 205?  3k will be better spent elsewhere in my opinion.  If one falls in my lap for cheap I won't pass it up but for now I think I will stick with what I have.

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 09:03 PM

I was running power brakes on my last Jeep weith the same setup. While they did work better I still was never real happy. They should be comparable to your TJ I would guess. Brakes seem to be big and heavy or expensive.

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 09:36 PM

View PostTryan100, on 24 July 2015 - 08:41 PM, said:

What's wrong with a 205?  3k will be better spent elsewhere in my opinion.  If one falls in my lap for cheap I won't pass it up but for now I think I will stick with what I have.

They are pain in the ass to pull out of gear above all elseto shift from hi to low let alone to do digs with,by the time you update the input / output and do 3 or 4 to 1 gears, twin stick it. it wont be far off at price of an atlas. Plus I'm not sure what the weight of a 205 vs an atlas Is but I'm sure there is some weight savings.

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 09:37 PM

View PostTryan100, on 24 July 2015 - 07:55 PM, said:

I want to be able to run the stacks of Mtrs I have lol.  I won't have to buy wheels or tires.

Sell them to me, problem solved 😊

But seriously, with as much power as you're going to have under the hood, you're going to want breaks big enough that a 15" wheel won't fit.

Isn't hydro boost kinda like revolve shackles, it used to be the cool thing? I wouldn't want the two systems in one on a wheelin rig

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 10:34 PM

Sams Off Road sells the caliper brackets to run 3/4 ton brakes on a 60 with 15 inch wheels. I'm running that set up with a really long brake pedal,  (lotsa leverage) and no power assist. Works fine. On the 205, your fine. All my years of wrenching 4x4 stuff, both professionally and personal stuff, I've never seen one completely destroyed, even with giant nitrous injected big blocks. The only draw back is when you want to switch to an Atlas you have to start over. Your on the right track.

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 05:29 AM

The only money going into the 205 at this point is $200 for a input and rebuild kit.  My outputs are already 32 spline.  I can't imagine the 205 being that much harder to shift the some of the atlas's I have seen.  The 205 is roughly 30 more lbs.  I can live with that.  Plus I plan on hacking some wieght off that enormous case.  

I am not worried about brakes at all.  Hydro boost is awesome.  I am not building this thing to be the newest thing out there.  I am not building it to pick up chicks. I am using parts that are proven. If I put it together and I can't stop then I will buy some 22" wheels and monster brakes.  This is a budget build.  I am saving where I can.