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#1 ChevyJoe

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 10:52 PM

I couldn't wait to share a new project I'm starting with my dad and grandpa. With my dad and grandpa into rebuilding classic cars and my interests being in the 4wheelin hobby, it was only a matter of time before the two came together to make a "hot rod" wheelin rig. I have been searching for a fairly rust free cab w/ title for awhile now recently came across the perfect cab, title and bed. The cab and bed are from a 1943 international truck and I will be picking them up this weekend:

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My grandpa gave me a 1938 Packard hood, grill shell, and headlight buckets... not sure who knows a lot about Packards but I am pretty stoked my grandpa gifted the parts to me, they are pretty dang rare! And very cool looking IMO.

My plan is to have a very simple, clean do it all vehicle; I want to be able to keep up with Tryan100 on the rimrock trails and drive it to car shows on the weekends. Lol

Build plan consists of:

- 5.3/4L60/NP241
- D44s w/ JK 5.38s, chromo axles, air locker rear, spool front
- lead sprung rear w/ fox shocks and FOA bumps, 4 link front w/ ORI's
- 37" OG mtr's on allied beadlocks
- full hydro (I realize this isn't "legal" for road use)
- custom frame using both square and round tube keeping LCG a top priority
- 1.75" DOM cage and tube work

I was going to try and find an LJ or FJ80 frame w/ stock suspension to start off of but after my CJ5 build, I have realized it is easer to just start from scratch

This build is going to take awhile as I am also saving to purchase a house so bear with me. Hopefully you guys enjoy where this goes as much as I do. There will be tons of questions for you guys along the way, thanks for looking


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Posted 17 March 2016 - 04:36 AM

Looks like that will be an awesome project. Definitely gonna keep up to date on in this one.

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 05:02 AM

Sounds cool but.......needs more lightbar. :sorcerer:

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 05:09 AM

Don't take those Packard parts to Rimrock!

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 06:45 AM

View PostPhantom 309, on 17 March 2016 - 05:09 AM, said:

Don't take those Packard parts to Rimrock!
That won't be hard I heard Rimrock is closed!

Edited by SHREK, 17 March 2016 - 06:47 AM.


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Posted 17 March 2016 - 07:17 AM

Project name: If you're not Fuerst you're last :lol:

This thing will be cool.

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 03:32 PM

View PostPhantom 309, on 17 March 2016 - 05:09 AM, said:

Don't take those Packard parts to Rimrock!

My grandpa sold the complete '38 Packard about a year or so ago, it was a rust bucket. Luckily, he had TWO hoods in his stash so as long as I protect the grill shell I should be alright. Dents will just give the rig more character :thumbsup:

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 03:58 PM

Can't wait to see this come together

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 04:41 PM

Needs IRS.

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 04:46 PM

View PostFloorit, on 17 March 2016 - 04:41 PM, said:

Needs IRS.

KISS method will be used, independent suspension is way over my head

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 11:25 AM

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 11:42 AM

Make it a dump bed so it can haul rocks at the trail work parties.

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 06:25 AM

Bitchin!

Why full hydro? More offroad than on I take it?

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 11:12 AM

View PostSHREK, on 20 March 2016 - 06:25 AM, said:

Bitchin!

Why full hydro? More offroad than on I take it?

To be honest I'm not dead set of full hydro. But in order to have a 4 link I gotta run full hydro. Rather just buy a full hydro kit than mess with a steering box and hydro assist and 3 link... I think 4 link/full hydro would look cleaner as well

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 12:23 PM

Have a couple questions regarding the build: did D44 axles come with 3" and/or bigger axle tubes? I think the late 70s fords and 3/4 ton GM pickups did, can any one confirm this?

Does an all aluminum 5.3L weigh more than the cast iron 4.3L?

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 01:36 PM

Late fords I believe are 3" by .5"

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 02:22 PM

I would guess the 5.3 is lighter. Mine was 408lbs with all the accessories and full of oil.

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 03:21 PM

From what I can find, a 4.3 weighs about 425. I think shrek is about right on the 5.3 weight. Alot of articles say the 5.3 isn't any lighter than the 6.0 because the cyl liners are thicker, less bore.

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 08:03 PM

I built my 44 from a 78 3/4 ton suburban axle 3" .5 wall tubes

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 08:25 PM

Thank you for the replies. I am looking for both a Chevy low pinion and ford high pinion Dana 44 housing (to steal the center sections) w/ 3" tubes. If any body has them laying around I would be interested in purchasing. I am going to retube so doesn't matter if they are leaf or coil sprig (on the ford) as long as the tubes are 3".

Thank you for the weight info shrek and landabuser. I thought the all aluminum LS motors would still be heavier than the all iron 4.3 but more power/less weight sounds just what I'm looking for, sweet!

Edited by ChevyJoe, 31 March 2016 - 08:25 PM.


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 08:26 PM

View PostLandabuser, on 31 March 2016 - 03:21 PM, said:

From what I can find, a 4.3 weighs about 425. I think shrek is about right on the 5.3 weight. Alot of articles say the 5.3 isn't any lighter than the 6.0 because the cyl liners are thicker, less bore.

So is the 6.0 lighter than the 5.3?

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 06:11 AM

View PostChevyJoe, on 31 March 2016 - 08:26 PM, said:



So is the 6.0 lighter than the 5.3?
6.2 is lighter yet!

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 08:53 AM

View PostSHREK, on 01 April 2016 - 06:11 AM, said:

6.2 is lighter yet!

Jesus, of course it is haha. I need to find a deal like tanners! This is a never ending cycle lol

Edited by ChevyJoe, 01 April 2016 - 09:20 AM.


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 06:26 AM

You will never regret going with an ls motor over the dog of a 4.3,, way more power and torque, smoother, better throttle response and excellent fuel economy. after market support in case you want to make more vroom vroom etc ..

I may know a guy that has a very nice 6.2 L92 :ninja: :thumbsup: :secret:

If you do go with an Ls then maybe would suggest a pair of dana 60's

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 07:37 PM

I have a extremely similar build in the works with my willys wagon on a custom frame low pinion front with jk gears yota rear a 4.8 4l60 241/300 doubler h1s with 42s wrapped around it. hope to start it this summer once my shops done

will be a dedicated snow wheeler just hoping to keep it light enough to get around and look cool. I built a 54 pickup a few years ago on a chevy frame that never was what I wanted it to be due to the factory frame limitations making it taller than I wanted.

anyways the whole point of my post is low pinion front with jk gears rcvs with 30 spline outters (costs way more than a stock 60 with similar strength but lighter with more clearance)

Edited by 79chevy39.5's, 03 April 2016 - 07:50 PM.