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#51 ChevyJoe

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 04:01 PM

View Post79chevy39.5, on 09 April 2016 - 03:44 PM, said:

iirc to run the jk gears in a standard 44 you have to use a high speed std carrier

ls with 4l60 is what ill run in mine for cost and adaptability (Ill run a 241/300 doubler but have the option to adapt to toy cases)
the 6l80 is a very big trans and the pcm is the valve body and pretty much has to be replaced if a failure happens. (my experience is only as a gm tech so no aftermarket parts/tuning systems)

Yes, you have to run a high speed carrier (3.73 and down) with the jk gears in a standard 44. The 6l80 is out of my price range

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a 6l80 and a 205 or 2;1 t case would be very cool,, I have a 6l80 for my rig and been trying to figure out how its going to fit,, maybe once i stretch my wheel base then ill consider putting it in with a 2:1 t case.. after market for the 6l80 is getting better and better as time goes on.
i priced out a 3 speed hero case and was blown away how much it was going to be with exchange rate and shipping :( 8600 canadian ... my wife would shoot me if i dropped that kinda cake on a t case.. :(

What trans and ratio atlas are you running now? Is your 6.2 stock or have you done some upgrades?

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:06 PM

I am running a ls3 hot cam crate 525 horse from gm,( its the same as cory's ibex build) with th400 and atlas 3.8 and 538 gears.

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Posted 03 May 2016 - 09:38 PM

What has more clearance, a shaved 14 bolt or normal Dana 60?


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 05:40 AM

What about a shaved 60?

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:20 AM

View PostChevyJoe, on 03 May 2016 - 09:38 PM, said:

What has more clearance, a shaved 14 bolt or normal Dana 60?


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Shaved14 bolt has more clearance than a 60. Shaved 60 is within 3/8ths of a 44

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 10:29 AM

View PostTryan100, on 04 May 2016 - 05:40 AM, said:

What about a shaved 60?

I'm probably wrong, but seems like all shaved 60s leak. I like the shave kits for the 14 bolt. And everybody thinks their Dana 60 rear end is worth more than $200!! 14 bolts are cheap

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 01:04 PM

View PostChevyJoe, on 04 May 2016 - 10:29 AM, said:



I'm probably wrong, but seems like all shaved 60s leak. I like the shave kits for the 14 bolt. And everybody thinks their Dana 60 rear end is worth more than $200!! 14 bolts are cheap

All shaved diffs leak eventually. No one makes a shave kit for 60's anymore. The 14 bolts leak just the same as 60's because it's the same shave technique. Have you actually seen a shaved 60 and 14 bolt in person? It would answer your leaking  question if you have

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 01:44 PM

View PostPOR, on 04 May 2016 - 01:04 PM, said:


All shaved diffs leak eventually. No one makes a shave kit for 60's anymore. The 14 bolts leak just the same as 60's because it's the same shave technique. Have you actually seen a shaved 60 and 14 bolt in person? It would answer your leaking  question if you have

Yes, I've seen multiple shaved 14 bolts in person. Not one leaked. I've seen one shaved 60 in person, skreks, and no offense shrek, but it leaked. He even said its always leaked.

How much more does a 14 bolt weigh compared to a 60?

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 02:52 PM

14 bolts are heavy

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 04:41 PM

View PostTryan100, on 04 May 2016 - 02:52 PM, said:

14 bolts are heavy

So are 60's 😂

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 05:58 PM

My opinion,  most 14 bolts are going to be heavier. Ford trucks had some lighter full float 60's in the 1960's. It also depends on the version, standard vs HD housing. The 14 bolt I have for sale has 4 inch tubes with heavily webbed center section and it's faukin HEAVY!

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 06:40 PM

This thing is going to be a snow rig, I don't need 4" tubes or something heavy. I was going to polish a 44 but tryan100 convinced me a Dana 60 or 14 bolt was cheaper and stronger in the rear. Still going HP 44 up front


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 07:20 PM

what about a stering 10.25? they have big pinion bearings and seem to have decent clearance you can get cheaply. but if its 14 vs 60 Id run a 14 (I ran my last one only smoothed cut the lip off is all) on 39.5 iroks

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 07:42 PM

Seems I remember a shaved 14b has  the same ground clearance as a D44. I agree with your reasons and choices, commons sense choices for the wheelin we do.

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 07:50 PM

View PostChevyJoe, on 04 May 2016 - 06:40 PM, said:

This thing is going to be a snow rig, I don't need 4" tubes or something heavy. I was going to polish a 44 but tryan100 convinced me a Dana 60 or 14 bolt was cheaper and stronger in the rear. Still going HP 44 up front


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What if you did a 6 lug 60 out of a 90's light duty chevy.... their pretty much a 44 with a 60 center section.  Unless you spend thousands on a aftermarket diff there's no way to get away from the weight a 1 ton rear end brings.. their all just heavy

Or just do a lp 44 stuff some tacoma shafts in it and be done.  I've never really had much of a problem with 44 gears, just the shafts breaking. Stuff some yota junk in there and be done.. I do have a hp44 rear end set up with link mounts, tacoma shafts, disc brakes and calipers, 5.38's, detroit. I'd make a pretty good deal on. If you were interested

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 07:54 PM

View Post79chevy39.5, on 04 May 2016 - 07:20 PM, said:

what about a stering 10.25? they have big pinion bearings and seem to have decent clearance you can get cheaply. but if its 14 vs 60 Id run a 14 (I ran my last one only smoothed cut the lip off is all) on 39.5 iroks

Good option, I guess if one fell in my lap I would go that route even if it is a fomoco product haha.

If I had my way ($$$$) I'd build a LP 44 rear w/ ARB, JK gears, 3" DOM axle tubes, 35 spline axles and FF spindles w/ aluminum 6 lug hubs.... one can only dream

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 07:57 PM

View PostPOR, on 04 May 2016 - 07:50 PM, said:


What if you did a 6 lug 60 out of a 90's light duty chevy.... their pretty much a 44 with a 60 center section.  Unless you spend thousands on a aftermarket diff there's no way to get away from the weight a 1 ton rear end brings.. their all just heavy

Man, that is a good idea. I completely forgot about those!!! Would work perfect, 6 lug too! Only draw back is SF but I'm not worried. Thanks man!

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 08:05 PM

why is a 9 inch not in the mix?

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 08:10 PM

View Post79chevy39.5, on 04 May 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

why is a 9 inch not in the mix?

To much custom work, I figured out of his price range he's shooting for

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 08:30 PM

My 60 had a 1/8"  more than the 14 bolt. Mine wasn't a kit either. The kits are a better design.  Mine didn't leak until I started smashing rocks with it. What about a Tundra 9.5"?

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 08:49 PM

View Post79chevy39.5, on 04 May 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

why is a 9 inch not in the mix?

Yep too much $$$ to achieve same strength as axles already mentioned. I would like to be about 64" wms to wms. The CC 14 bolt fits that bill. Anything else needs to be cut down or is too narrow

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 08:52 PM

View PostSHREK, on 04 May 2016 - 08:30 PM, said:

My 60 had a 1/8"  more than the 14 bolt. Mine wasn't a kit either. The kits are a better design.  Mine didn't leak until I started smashing rocks with it. What about a Tundra 9.5"?

That's right, you said after Canada and KOH it started leaking. If I could buy 5.38s is consider a 9.5" Toyota diff but they only come in 5.29 and I want to be able to use 4wd on the pavement ;)

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 12:43 AM

I modified my C&C hubs to 6 bolt. I love the idea of beefy axle shafts and heavy duty tubes, low price, great gear selection.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 07:35 PM

I just did a 14/15 bolt shave kit from tmr customs and was super easy. have a guy (machine shop) turn the ring gear down. looks to have more clearance than my d60 in my rig for sure

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 07:50 PM

I think I should have done the tmr setup.